Friday, August 29, 2008

Harrogate: We must discuss this pick!!!

Sarah Palin, the Creationist. Let's here it for faith based reality:
"Teach both. You know, don't be afraid of information. Healthy debate is so important, and it's so valuable in our schools. I am a proponent of teaching both."


No wonder why the country went to war in Iraq. Republicans do not know how to judge evidence in a debate.

Fucking Kids.

3 comments:

harrogate said...

Another reason we should find a good alliterative designation for her, along the lines of "paltry Palin." How vacuous. Even the people at Little Green Footballs are embarrasssed by the anti-science strain of the GOP.

Unfortunately, buddy, this may be an area in which the Obama people are going to find it fairly prickly to attack.

An anecdote. Harrogate's father delcared on the phone last night, just before the speech, that there was absolutely no way in hell he would vote for Obama. 2 Deal Breakers: The FISA Vote and then Obama's support for Faith-Based Initiatives, allowing the sphere of religious doctrine into federal government. He says he is an old man now, and tired of the "lesser of two evils argument." he lives in Kucinich's district, so he actually gets to vote for a "good."
So this is an Ohio voter we're talking about, a progressive Obama could easily have had by voting against a bill he had to know in his gut was a bad bill, and by respectfully courting evangelicals Without going for the Bush initiatives.

These are both instances, Harrogate believes, where Obama violated the essence of his Rhetoric, and made moves entirely out of calculation.

It is not that Obama's embrace of the initiatives at all bars him from criticizing the attack on science in education. It does make it harder for him though. IHO.

solon said...

Obama's rhetoric is grounded in pragmatism, not idealism. Voting for FISA during the campaign is the best worst option. Once elected, then change the damn law, especially when you can avoid the veto.

harrogate said...

Hmmm. If the vote was pragmatic, what exactly did he get achieved with the FISA vote? He certainly didn't quiet the "soft on national security" cry from the Right that has dogged him from the beginning.

But, Harrogate agrees with you that if he is sworn in that law will be scrapped, Dark Knight style.

And, one also wonders what the practical achievments are in terms of the Faith Based initiatives. He seems to be doing as well as he's gonna do with evangelicals, without going there. It makes Palin's creationism fetish a thorny problem for him to confront.

IHO.